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Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel (Read 17507 times)

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Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel
Jan 14^th, 2008, 4:29pm

Eden Roc Motel
5201 Atlantic Ave
Wildwood, NJ 08260
(p): (888) 373-1930 / (609) 522-1930

Official Website
www.edenrocmotel.com

Wildwood Doo Wop Profile
http://www.wildwooddoowop.com/doowopspots/?ID=320

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With its red brick facade and bright pink signage, the Eden Roc is a Wildwood landmark that never has to scream for attention. Constructed in 1957 and sharing its name with a famous Miami hotel, it is perhaps one of the best-known examples of Doo Wop on the island.

The subjects of each week's Doo Wop Discussion are usually selected by a random process that is so complex, you'd have to give your life if you wanted to know the secret. However, the Eden Roc was selected because it became the topic of conversation in another thread and it's probably time we put our minds and information together to find out what's going on with this property. Is it for sale and about to face the wrecking ball? Is it safe for another few seasons? Do the owners plan on updating it in the near future? So many questions, so few answers. Anyone care to get the ball rolling?

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FlyinGN Ultimate God Member Wildwood fan since '61 Posts: 5736 Gender:	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #1 - Jan 14^th, 2008, 4:57pm great hotel. Full of history.. Never stayed there.. Prefer quieter areas.. Itys a shame the present owner wants out too.. If you look at the pic.. on the left side (opposite of the office) is a cantlever second floor. Very unique... There is no visible means of support on that end..
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crazyaboutwildwood Ex Member	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #2 - Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:05pm Love this place! It seems that it could use some TLC. I would hate to see it go to the Wrecking ball. Im sorry I dont really have anything to add to this but if I won the lotto i would save this place along with a bunch of others.
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MMM Forum Moderator I support Doo Wop preservation. Posts: 3913 Gender:	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #3 - Jan 14^th, 2008, 6:18pm When was the last time the signs worked?
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WildMan

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Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel
Reply #4 - Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:54pm

Quote from FlyinGN on Jan 14^th, 2008, 4:57pm:

If you look at the pic.. on the left side (opposite of the office) is a cantlever second floor. Very unique... There is no visible means of support on that end..

You know, I never noticed that before. That is an interesting- and somewhat daring- design element.

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hulk007 Ultimate God Member If I had one day left on earth i'd spend it in WW Posts: 5010 Gender:	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #5 - Jan 14^th, 2008, 10:52pm I've never stayed at this place but have not heard good things about it over the last few years. Hopefully, whoever buys it will be able to restore it to its former glory. I never remember the sign being lit up at night.
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hulk007 Ultimate God Member If I had one day left on earth i'd spend it in WW Posts: 5010 Gender:	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #6 - Jan 14^th, 2008, 11:18pm Does anyone remember what motel was behind the Eden Roc? I know there's a huge condo there now.
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WildMan Ultimate God Member Posts: 5700 Gender:	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #7 - Jan 15^th, 2008, 9:56am I can't recall the last time I saw the sign operational... that is, if I ever saw the sign operational to begin with. Seems like it's been dark for as long as I can remember, which is about five minutes
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crazyaboutwildwood Ex Member	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #8 - Jan 15^th, 2008, 1:59pm Quote from hulk007 on Jan 14^th, 2008, 11:18pm: Does anyone remember what motel was behind the Eden Roc? I know there's a huge condo there now. Thts a good question for Al Alven. Where the heck is Al?
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WildMan Ultimate God Member Posts: 5700 Gender:	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #9 - Jan 15^th, 2008, 2:14pm Al's been dealing with some computer problems this week but told me he'd be back ASAP.
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hulk007 Ultimate God Member If I had one day left on earth i'd spend it in WW Posts: 5010 Gender:	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #10 - Jan 15^th, 2008, 10:53pm In some of the old photos`the sign is lit. Of course those pics`are about 40 years old.
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Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel
Reply #11 - Jan 16^th, 2008, 3:22am

There are some interesting photos of the Eden Roc in an album at a site called sevenpleasures.org that I found a while back via a link in the Tiki Central forum, including this one of the cantilevered portion that Frank mentioned (click for larger image). The full album is here (annotated with the photographer's bitter remarks about condo development):

http://www.sevenpleasures.org/gallery/Wildwood-Eden-Roc

I don't see any photo credit information in the gallery; all I know is the photographer's username on the Tiki forum was Sabina.

As previously noted, a Wildwood native told me last year that the Eden Roc's infrastructure was too far gone for the motel to be salvaged in the long run, which seemed to echo comments that have been made in this forum, but I have no idea whether my contact's assessment comes from a reliable primary source.

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Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel
Reply #12 - Jan 16^th, 2008, 9:17am

I'm not going to doubt what you were told Kathi, I'm just wondering what kind of structural issues could plague a two-story building. If anything, the cantilevered section could be a problem but if that were the case, I'm sure that room would not be available for rent. Or maybe that room isn't available... anyone stayed in it/seen someone in it in recent years?

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hulk007 Ultimate God Member If I had one day left on earth i'd spend it in WW Posts: 5010 Gender:	Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel Reply #13 - Jan 16^th, 2008, 4:59pm When I went past there over the summer the place appeared to be full so I guess the rooms were being used.
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Re: Doo Wop Discussion #23: Eden Roc Motel
Reply #14 - Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:00pm

Quote from Rob Ascough on Jan 16^th, 2008, 9:17am:

I'm just wondering what kind of structural issues could plague a two-story building.

By "infrastructure" I meant not so much physical structure as building systems, in other words, plumbing and wiring, which was clearly what my contact was referring to. Maybe heating; I don't know whether it has any.

I went back to refresh myself about the comments I vaguely recalled from the old forum. writhinganacondo said:
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Too bad about its condition, if you look at the early photos the design was among the best on the island. An ideal place to save, but would probably be too much $$$...its not all about just changing the interiors. In its prime it was owned by ex-mayor Charles Masciarella.

http://dwpl.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=motels&action=display&thread =1160708775#1160972638

thelastresort said (in response to someone who noted that the Eden Roc was listed for sale):
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I understand she has been trying to sell it since the day she bought it, so no surprise there

http://dwpl.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=motels&action=display&thread =1160689351#1160754910

Martin wrote:
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The poor Eden Roc was looking pretty rough when I saw it recently...

http://dwpl.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=motels&action=display&thread =1160689351#1160793219

... and Al said something similar around that same time (fall '06). There was also a lot of discussion about the motel's blistering reviews on Trip Advisor. Robert wrote:
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On Trip Advisor every person gave it the lowest review, saying the owner was a witch and that the motel was dirty, filthy.

http://dwpl.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=motels&action=display&thread =1140322471#1140322471

Of course, "filthy" doesn't necessarily imply lost-cause status.

What thelastresort heard about the owner trying to flip it immediately may have stuck with me more than anything else. There could be a lot of reasons for that but I can't help wondering if she made some really unpleasant discovery about the underlying condition of the property after the sale went through and she began to operate it.

Kathi
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