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'Out of Season': Mark Havens' WW photo project (Read 7786 times)
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Reply #30 - Mar 24th, 2010, 3:00pm
 
The pictures are purely amazing!  Looking to see if I can tell which "unmarked" picture is what motel........really makes me put my thinking cap on!  Thanks for sharing...........
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Reply #31 - Mar 24th, 2010, 4:02pm
 
Mark, quick question... Are you still teaching at Philadelphia University?
 
Just curious if you've ever shared your photos or Wildwood experiences with your students, and what their reactions have been?
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Reply #32 - Mar 24th, 2010, 8:47pm
 
Mark, when did you take that picture of The Satellite, on the balcony?  Any stories behind taking pictures there as well?
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Reply #33 - Mar 26th, 2010, 1:56pm
 
Hi Al:
Yes, I'm still at PhilaU---you've got an incredible memory! Photography doesn't come up too much, though. I guess it's just more of a personal thing for me.  
 
Hi Martin:
The images of the Satellite were shot in 2004 on the last weekend the motel was open. The owner was pretty standoff-ish when I asked permission so I didn't get much in the way of stories. One thing about that day does stand out to me, but it's about my own screw-up, though:  
 
The sign and the roof peak at night were something I really wanted. So I saved several rolls of film to make sure I could get lots of sign shots. It took me a long while to shoot the rest of the motel and then I remember thinking: "OK, now I'm gonna get that sign." I'd just gotten set up and started when---poof---out go the lights. I remember standing there with my mouth hanging open and looking around like someone was playing a practical joke or something. I'd forgotten that nearly all the motel lights in town, especially the neon signs, are on timers all set to different times. I looked at my watch and it was 11:30 exactly. The office was dark, residence was dark, parking lot empty, nobody around to even ask to turn the sign back on.  
 
That half roll of film was all I ever got of the lit sign because, sadly, the next week the bulldozers moved in...
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Reply #34 - Mar 26th, 2010, 7:35pm
 
Quote from redeyejedi on Mar 26th, 2010, 1:56pm:
Hi Al:
I'd just gotten set up and started when---poof---out go the lights. I remember standing there with my mouth hanging open and looking around like someone was playing a practical joke or something. I'd forgotten that nearly all the motel lights in town, especially the neon signs, are on timers all set to different times. I looked at my watch and it was 11:30 exactly. The office was dark, residence was dark, parking lot empty, nobody around to even ask to turn the sign back on.

That half roll of film was all I ever got of the lit sign because, sadly, the next week the bulldozers moved in...

 
Ohhhhh! That's Brutal!!! Sad
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Reply #35 - Mar 26th, 2010, 7:55pm
 
Mark, your heart must have sunk into your stomach when that sign turned off. I was also running around, trying to capture what I could that September, and encountered many similar situations. I would hardly refer to it as a "screw up" - the mere fact that you were down there, shooting at 11:30 pm in September, went far above and beyond the call of dedication to the documentation of soon-to-be-lost treasures like the Satellite.
 
Most of the pics I have of the Satellite were taken during the final week of its operation, so I missed you by a few days. I had the same experience with the owner - he was pleasant enough, but I didn't get much out of him in the way of info or stories. I even got the sense, when we first started talking, that he was choking up a bit. Of course, I appreciated that in a certain way, but the mere notion of the Satellite being torn down at that time still seemed so unrealistic; it ALL seemed so surreal.  
 
One thing I will always regret is not asking to go inside and take a look at the two-story lobby/office area. Why I neglected to do so, looking back, is completely beyond me...
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Reply #36 - Mar 26th, 2010, 9:21pm
 
Mark, thanks.  Was that picture taken on the 2nd or 3rd floor?
 
What was the last week for The Satellite?  Did it operate past Car Show/Irish Weekend in 2004?  The last time I saw it in person was the Saturday night of that weekend, and it was already dark there, though it wasn't past 11:30.
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Reply #37 - Mar 26th, 2010, 11:42pm
 
Was the Satellite ever close to being saved?
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Reply #38 - Apr 7th, 2010, 2:30pm
 
Not that I know of.  I think the owners might have even promoted the last year of the motel, unless I'm thinking of another Wildwood landmark?
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Reply #39 - Apr 14th, 2010, 12:45pm
 
Quote from Rob Ascough on Apr 7th, 2010, 2:30pm:
Not that I know of.  I think the owners might have even promoted the last year of the motel, unless I'm thinking of another Wildwood landmark?

 
I remember seeing in the Hastings book some drawing of what it would have looked like if they made it biggger. Sadly it never came to happen.
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Reply #40 - Apr 14th, 2010, 3:59pm
 
The Satellite was never really close to ever being saved, unfortunately. After the motel was demolished, there were some people who thought that the sale of the property was already in place but not officially announced before the preservations efforts began to gain some steam. But  that could have been just a rumor after the fact so who knows?
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Reply #41 - Apr 15th, 2010, 12:11am
 
Quote from tradewinds on Apr 14th, 2010, 3:59pm:
The Satellite was never really close to ever being saved, unfortunately. After the motel was demolished, there were some people who thought that the sale of the property was already in place but not officially announced before the preservations efforts began to gain some steam. But  that could have been just a rumor after the fact so who knows?

 
 
That's too bad. I always liked to believe they made a hard push to save that place.
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Reply #42 - Apr 25th, 2010, 9:48pm
 
Quote from redeyejedi on Mar 3rd, 2010, 3:48am:
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Thanks for the kind words about Out of Season. Coming from folks who know Wildwood as well as you all do, it really means a lot to me.

Mark

 
 
As an exprienced photorapher myself (non "pro"), I have to tell you - these photos are OUTSTANDING; really beautiful!  And sad, as another person stated.  cry
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Reply #43 - May 3rd, 2010, 10:00pm
 
Hi Martin:
The Satellite shot was taken on the second floor. Not sure what the date of the last weekend for The Satellite was. Wish I'd kept better notations that early in the project!  
 
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Reply #44 - May 3rd, 2010, 10:16pm
 
These classic Wildwood photos should be in a book! They are that good. The first printing would probably sell out just from the people on this site alone!
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